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Jon and Kate Plus 8 Season 5 Unknown: Jon vs. Kate!

Last night’s mildly disappointing finale of Jon and Kate Plus 8 has left fans unsure whether we’ll see anymore of the Gosselin family.

Jon and Kate GosselinMost of the finale was typical footage of the family but the last 10 minutes of the show were, by far, the most exciting.

If you’re a fan of the show, you’ve probably heard the rumors that Jon is cheating on Kate and that he’s not happy with the way things are in his family. The latter part of that sentence was evident as Jon and Kate sat on the infamous couch and poured their hearts out to America last night.

Whether or not we see Jon, Kate and their 8 children again hangs in the balance of whether or not Kate and Jon Gosselin can come to an agreement. It is extremely clear that Jon does not want to do another season but Kate does.

Jon said in last night’s episode that he always has to be Jon and Kate Plus 8 – he can never just be Jon, and that’s really hard for him to deal with. Kate pointed out that the show has allowed Jon to maintain a full-time job at home but he insisted that that was not necessarily a good thing. After being ridiculed by his wife for 4 seasons, it’s not surprising that Jon doesn’t want to spend his time at home with her.

So, will there be a Jon and Kate Plus 8 Season 5?

That question has not been answered yet – but we’re pretty sure TLC is willing to pay big bucks for the Gosselin’s return to TV.

Good news for fans is that Kate usually gets her way – so there will be another season, you can bet your hard-earned money on it.

What did you think of the finale last night? Do you think Jon is right to want to stop the show (after all, it might save his family) or do you think Kate is right to want to keep going (the show can make them a lot of money and help their kids in the future)?

It's Jon vs. Kate - who's side are you on?

See what everyone else thought of the finale on our "Jon and Kate Plus 8 Finale Sparks Controversy with Loyal Fans" post filled with comments from fans!

Check out these photos of Jon and Kate and their children over the years (the middle photo is from their original wedding - as is the photo above):

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Published Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:33 AM by Bella
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Hollywood Hookup said:

Tonight's highly anticipated season finale of Jon and Kate Plus 8 has fans wondering whether the cheating

March 24, 2009 8:46 AM
 

Jennie New Jersey said:

We all feel from time to time that we want out no matter how many kids we have, it is part of growing up. Jon just needs to feel he is as important to this family as Kate is, not just a gopher for her, and she should learn her way is not the only way.

Try not to become a broken family, children do not deserve this, their time with you goes bye very fast and in the years to come you will want to be back with them as children.  My kids are in their 30, but I always think of them as 2 & 4.

Love is an act and the game does not  have rules, but needs to have respect for each other. Grow together, learn and love, but respect each other.

March 24, 2009 10:37 AM
 

Jennifer TN said:

Jon you have to worry about one thing only and that is your family. I know that it is hard being filmed everywhere you go, but we all love you and your family.  If you need to go out and have Jon time, do so. There is always going to be someone who wants to make up stuff. If you know you aren't cheating, don't worry about it. People are rude and unfourtunately non of us are safe from it. We would really miss you if you decided to not do any more shows. We absolutely have fallen in love with your family. God Bless

March 24, 2009 11:01 AM
 

Paula Vogt said:

When you have brought 8 children into the world, you do not have the luxury of leaving, because it is too stressful.  The family has been under a great deal of stress, with 2 sets of multiples, living in a gold fish bowl, financial needs, and now, most recently, moving to a new home.  Someone once said that moving is as stressful as going to prison.  It is no coincidence that Jon and Kate are struggeling.

Having been through a similar ordeal, my husband and I kept one value at the forefront.  We sought individual and marriage counseling, learned to set limits on how much we would do, established clear values, and eventually, came together in marriage counseling as two more self aware people who knew how to take care of ourselves.  We built a better relationship.

Jon and Kate are under an incredible amount of stress.  I can see their anger surface in little pips, indirect anger.  The anger each feels is from over work.  Incourage them to slow down, set limits and get help.  This marriage can and needs to be saved.  The children need them, together.

March 24, 2009 11:11 AM
 

Cyndi said:

It could be an attempt to get more money from the show. But I do think that the show should come to an end. it is obvious that John isn't happy spending all that time at home and does need a break. Kate just seems like she is out for herself. The older girls are starting to not want to be on camera 24/7 and Kate just loves the money and the fact that she can do things that she has only dreamed of and never has to work and can shop whenever she wants. She needs to think of her family and what they need. What is she going to do when the all the kids are in school? Time to stop mooching off the world and make your own money.

March 24, 2009 11:33 AM
 

keah tingler said:

Ya know I just dont get it, Kate is never at home exept for filming. She acts like shes an A-list celeb, but, I bet shes not acting like shes "J&K plus 8" when shes gone either.  No wonder she wants another season she can galavant around and pretend shes June Clever and I would be willing to bet when the cameras are off shes a "wild thing" you can tell, look at the way she has started dressing with heels, "hair did",fake bake tan and tight fitting clothes...c'mon TLC think about it but, I bet you guys don't care because your making the bucks and who cares if you screw up 8 kids in the process right!!. Well Jon good luck because now Kate will be the victim and you will look like the cheating, pitiful,can't stand up to big bad Kate, because you have no balls husband. Again Jon if I were you I start looking into what Kate is doing on her free time when shes away. One more thing, did you have to go the whole way to Utah to ski with your daughter, whats wrong with Ski Round Top in PA.

March 24, 2009 11:43 AM
 

tina said:

True on the sking, Why not at any of the resorts in Pennsylvania or New York? Could it be that its another trip on TLC? They need to take a break if things are not good at the home.

March 24, 2009 12:29 PM
 

Tere said:

I hope they never come back, for the kids and maybe.....for their marriage.Is very sad,disgusting and shame the way Kate treat Jon in front of the whole world, what an example for the kids to watch.Money is good and help a lot in this time, but not buy happiness, health and most important the love of your family.Kate,go and  buy the whole world and in the end nobody is going to be around you.Your ambition are going to far. Think about it, the money or your family.Good luck, if you really read this, I doubt it.Is just the way people relief their felling and frustrations.

March 24, 2009 12:52 PM
 

Sue said:

Everything we saw was designed to increase viewership for the network, which = more MONEY and Income the family...it's all about the MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$.  Be honest with yourselves, do ya think they did the show for grins?

March 24, 2009 1:46 PM
 

cindy said:

If I treated my husband so disrespectful as Kate does Jon I would of been long gone.  KATE WAKE UP@!! You have a wonderful man and YOU are blowing it.  if I was married to you..I would of left or found someone else a long time ago.

You are controling, obsessive and down right nasty!

YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND BE A MOM AND A WOMAN

March 24, 2009 2:08 PM
 

cindy said:

In last night episode..why does everything have to be brand names especially for the kids.  Little crocs are 25.00 if not more times 8??? Lots of $$$ Plus the little clothes all need to be name brand??? Why? do they have that much money to throw away on brand name clothes?  Especially in the economy now.  Some parents can not even afford second hand clothes for their children and she has to have brand name!!! I say: PUT KATE IN THE STREETS FOR A WEEKEND TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE VALUE OF MONEY AND HOW OTHERS LIVE.  SHE WIPES HER ASS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

March 24, 2009 2:12 PM
 

STEPHANIE DOWNS said:

I LOVE JON AND KATE PLUS 8 I HOPE THAT THE SHOW  DOES NOT GO OFF AND AS FAR AS KATE IF SHE WAS NOT HOW SHE WAS THEN SHE WOULD HAVE TO PROABLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIM ACTING LIKE THAT  BUT  JON DOES HELP HER OUT ALOT AND HE TAKES GOOD CARE OF THE KIDS

March 24, 2009 2:47 PM
 

Micehlle said:

Does anyone know what clothing store Kate was shopping in last night for her clothes?

March 24, 2009 3:07 PM
 

Suzanne said:

Jon, you are great!!  My sister is exactly like Kate.  Unfortunately, her belittling of her husband, caused him to cheat!  Kate, don't belittle Jon, he is not one of your children.   He is a very handsome, wonderful father.  Believe me, I am a single parent, and even if you don't think Jon helps out very much, welcome whatever help you receive.  Just once Kate, say something positive about Jon, you will reap the rewards.  I notice Kate, how you say your parents don't have any contact with the children, so maybe this is where your attitude stems from, not quite sure, only you know.  Remember, Jon is a cutey, so hang on to him Kate, with kindness, before it is too late...and Jon, you stay faithful, child support alone would kill you...:-)  Hang in there you guys!!

March 24, 2009 5:09 PM
 

Amy said:

To be completely honest with everyone, jon is really honestly not the most helpful husband in the world.yes i will admit that kate can be rude at times when jon does not deserve it.

But be honest with yourself and put yourself in there shoes,try raising 8 kids and trying to have eyes on all of them at all times with only 2 people.you would be just as on edge as kate and jon both are,then plus having a camera crew in your face the whole time.

They need counsilling to express there issues to each other so that they can get all there feelings out to each other in a safe enviroment without the kids there.

With the whole cheating aspect with jon,honestly if jon says that he did not do it then you have to give him the benfit of the doubt until it is either admitted or proven.

Really I would love to see Jon and Kate come back for another season while there little ones are still young but come one know one can honestly make enough money to raise 8 kids with out the help and doing the show now while there young and saving the extra money for the future would be grand and really help.

Before you can really honestly say what your feeling about all the situations put yourself honestly in there shoes and if you can honestly think about there life you would understand why they are so stressed and upset.

March 24, 2009 11:06 PM
 

pammie said:

I hope Jon & Kate can work things out if there is a real problem in the marriage.  After all they moved into this really wonderful new home for the children and it would be sad if the family broke up.  Jon child support would be tough, and I guess the show would have to be Kate, plus 8 part-time!!!!  Be very careful, both of you!!!  You have come a long way.  Take care.

March 24, 2009 11:26 PM
 

Kurtis said:

If Jon is cheating it's about time. I have watched this show from beginning to end. First of all let me say this, Kate is relentless with all of the belitteling comments she makes about Jon. Listen, I admire Jon for putting up with her. I would'nt stand for any of her crap. Kate is controlling and does not love her Husband. She would not treat him the way she does if she did really love him. I am convinced that if I was in Jon's shoes I would have probably end my life rather that have to wake up one more day with Kate and hear her complain or control me one more day. Every little thing that Jon tries to do must be approved, he is told how to do it, when to do it, if he can buy this or that and now we all see how controlling she is. There isn't a man on earth that could have his masculinity survive a relationship with a woman like Kate. She has got some major issuse that she needs to deal with and then she needs to learn how to uplift her Husband and encourage him, not treat him like he's not your equal. The way she talks to Jon is just like she talks to her children. He is not your child....he's your husband, so treat him with Love, Respect and let him be the person that you married not who you want him to be. Hey Kate, if Jon treated you the way that you treat him I'm sure that you would have left him long ago. Kate is abusive toward her Husband, with verbal and emotional abuse as her weapons. There is not  one man on Earth that could or should put up with a woman who has a Wife like Kate.

March 25, 2009 12:34 PM
 

Sally said:

I find it intersting Kate does not have to even look for sales in the stores. Just heads for the racks and takes what she wants. How many families can do that now days?

March 25, 2009 1:41 PM
 

Talia said:

Kate totally reeks. If the show ends soon, maybe those kids will be able to have some sanity.  But it's probably too late now.  Kate has slowly morphed from a normal, harried mom of 8 that we could all empathize with (and be inspired by), into an embarrasing shrew that would make any man run screaming.  If that is what fame and money does to people, they can have it.  I'm so over this show.

March 25, 2009 2:16 PM
 

twitter.com/mccaw said:

On March 11, Emeril flew to PA to shoot 100th episode of Jon & Kate Plus 8. He made chili mac and cheese, baked salmon w/lentils and brought organic brownies. I guess they answered their own question to do Season 5 before Season 4 finale even aired.

March 25, 2009 3:54 PM
 

Carol said:

I have a hard time watching the show because Kate reminds me too much of my mother....a controlling ***.  Just like mom, Kate is married to a wonderful man but my mother treated dad just like one of her children, only worse.   Dad had major heart attacks at ages 35 and 42 and at age 50 he had bypass surgery.  He is now in heaven but I really believe he would still be alive today if he had of had it in him to leave.  I am sure he stayed for his five daughers but at too high of a cost.  John, if you are not happy leave now....run fast!  Things always work out and you will find someone wonderful to share your life with.  

March 25, 2009 9:04 PM
 

DD said:

I doubt that Jon was cheating.  Let's face it, most college kids have a cell phone with a camera that takes pics and video. If he was out there kissing and hanging on to them, those pics/videos would be all over the internet. The only pic we see is Jon with a couple of fans.  All is well.  I think that he is very unhappy that these rumors have started and they are hurtful, and it is because of the shows fame that he can't go out w/o being under a microscope.  But, the fact is that this is a man in his 30's with 8 kids and a wife, going out to a college bar, not a good move on his part.  And yes, Kate is a little controlling, but she will mellow with age.  I bet, if you put her in charge of any company....that company would have no choice but to succeed!  She is a go-getter.  I am sure it will be back next year, just not as much Jon maybe.  Also regarding Aunts and Uncles and sitters that were filmed during show, my thought on that is they should get some type of payment for being on the show.  Not sure what they were thinking there...  Oh, and the dogs....they should not have gotten the dogs.  Yes, sounds like a great idea, but I do not think they realized how much work pets are, and dogs are like having more children.  I do hope they find loving homes for them.  It was sad to see them giving them food very quickly through the door, and then shutting the door on them.  Just my 2 cents on the subject, and I am sure we will see them next season.  Happy Day All!

March 26, 2009 1:11 PM
 

AW said:

I think that it is interesting that the whole Jon cheating on Kate story came out when the season finale was coming up. Kate is mean to Jon but I think she also does it for the drama effect. I would love for them to come back for season 5. Of course they are going to want more money. This show can not last forever for them so I think they are trying to make the most money they can from this. Think about it, if you were in their shoes and TLC asked you to tape you and your family for money most people would say yes. Plus all the perks they receive, most people would not turn them down. I love the show but Kate needs to work on her attitude and Jon needs to realize that this is his life now. Also, they need to work on Mady because she just screams and cries when she does not get her way. Kate passes her off to Jon and he just says to be quiet. Please come back to another season.

March 26, 2009 7:03 PM
 

jane morrison said:

I MET JON & KATE IN GREER S.C AND THEY ARE A VERY SWEET COUPLE. I THINK THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN QUIRK'S AND PERSONALITY .GIVE KATE A BREAK,SHE IS FINALLY GETTING A CHANCE TO BE HERSELF,ALSO A GOOD WIFE AND MOTHER.KATE PLEASE COME BACK FOR SEASON 5.LOVE YOU ALL

March 27, 2009 12:02 AM
 

Ruxy said:

I LOVE WATCHING THEIR SHOW AND HOPE THEY CAN WORK THINGS OUT IF NOT FOR THEM, FOR THE CHILDREN.  AS FAR AS JON AND KATE, I WILL SAY THIS, I KNOW THAT KATE IS THE ONE THAT HAS STAYED AT HOME AND HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH THE KIDS, MORE THAN JON HOWEVER, KATE IS A VERY PUSHY, NASTY AND CONTROLLING PERSON.  KATE, YOU NEED TO CHANGE MY DEAR BECAUSE IN SPITE OF ALL THE GOOD WE SEE ON THE SHOW, THE ONE THING NO ONE CAN DISMISS IS HOW YOU TREAT JON AND I MUST SAY IT ISN'T FUN TO WATCH...YOU TREAT HIM LIKE CRAP IN FRONT ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.  TAKE SOME TIME AND THINK ABOUT YUR ACTIONS.

March 27, 2009 12:55 PM
 

RoxanneKTZ said:

Every new season Kate gets louder and more needy . Does  it mean she loves Jon any less?Noooo..If the rumors are true about Jon ,well that just breaks my heart .Jon did not seem like that type of dad.Also if Kate is such a monster she does not deserve her adultery .Jon shoul of ask for marriage counsoling am sure TLC would of help....No matter what happens I hope Kates finds it in her to forgive him.

March 29, 2009 10:21 AM
 

Andrea said:

I was VERY DISAPPOINTED with the finale!  The commercials totally led us to believe Jon and Kate were actually going to talk their marriage problems and maybe Jon was finally going to grow a back bone and discuss how Kate treats him like a piece of crap...but none of that was discussed!  It was Jon whining about how he cant go out anymore without fans taking pictures, boo woo.  I guess Jon realized he cant go out and cheat on Kate anymore cause she will find out about it haha.  I do not feel sorry for them at all!  and the other thing that made me really angry was the fact that niether Jon or Kate talked about if the KIDS WANT TO KEEP FILMING FOR SEASON 5! All they talked about was their feelings and if they are happy or not happy...im sorry, I thought they only wanted what was best for their kids...but apparantly the kids ( who are the ones who made them famous) have NO SAY if there is a tv crew filming them 24/7   Jon and Kate have really changed since season 1, and it is not for the better

April 5, 2009 1:53 AM
 

Rosie said:

I am sure Kate watches episodes and why she can't see how annoying and unfair she is in the way she "rags" on her husband is beyond me...

I can't blame Jon one bit if anything has happened...he is being taking for granted by Kate...and yes, he works a job outside of the home as well as in the home...so Kate hasn't had it as hard imo.

April 9, 2009 1:35 AM
 

mo said:

I was glad to see someone else mention Maddie's behavior.  She is terrible.  She cries and tantrums during many of the episodes and many times gets a reward for this behavior.  The time that Jon was cooking Korean food for the family to enjoy, she started acting up so Kate put chop sticks or something in her hair so she could be special.  Yet at the next episode, one of the little boys had trouble accepting the disappointment of it not being his turn to go out with his daddy.... No sympathy for the little one.  He was sent to bed for crying...urgh....

April 12, 2009 10:50 PM
 

Shaun said:

I enjoy this show very much. I think the kids really make the show work. As faras Jon goes, he is a better man than me for putting up with Kates crap for so long, he needs to let them dangle again and get his man card back, before it gets so bad that it all explodes in their faces which in the long run would effect the kids.Kate is a peice of work, how can a person be so mean to their spouse like that, let alone in front of a camera to see. Best of luck to Gosselin family. oh and P.S. pull that stick out of your back side Kate!!!!

April 20, 2009 2:18 AM
 

maureen said:

in hope jon and kate have another season!!!!! i love thier show soooo much!!!

April 24, 2009 9:58 PM
 

Karen said:

I've watched this show off and on.  I don't like the way Kate talks to Jon and I think the kids (and parents) could learn A LOT from the Duggar family (with 18 kids!) and/or get a big dose of Supernanny.  That being said, I have to address Jon whining about "not being Jon anymore." and "being Jon and Kate plus 8".  Well, Jon, grow up!  With or without the tv show ever having been on, you are NOT just Jon anymore.  You are part of a family and you are responsible for the welfare of 8 children.  Carousing, drinking, playing kiss and pinch with some college co-ed is NOT acceptable behavior for ANY FATHER whether he is on tv or not!!!  Get a backbone, grow up and go take care of your family!!!

May 1, 2009 6:34 PM
 

Ashley said:

i love their TV show. i watch it everyday. i do not think that Jon cheated on kate. I beleive that they love their children and each other. i also think that people should stay out of their business and not start things that they dont know. If jon did cheat on Kate then thats for them to work out. But I really hope that they keep doing the show because without it i would never get a laugh in and i would have nothing to watch because thats the only thing i ever watch. I LOV U GUYS!!!!

May 11, 2009 11:52 PM
 

A.J said:

There are many forms of love. I believe that Kate and John posses a deep love that is lost at this moment of time. Change is inevitable. Unfortunately, this family is going through a bad time because the change in their fast-pace life has left them physically and emotionally drained. The spot light only makes matters worse. In the state that our Country is at right now, the key matter for them is to focus on the good qualities and seek a common goal to reach so that the kids have a solid ground. I will end with a quote from Waitley.

"There are two primary choices in life: to accept conditions as they exist, or accept the responsibility for changing them.”

                                                                                  -Denis Waitley

May 26, 2009 11:44 AM

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